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Internet Explorer 5 developer describes frustrations of working with Steve Jobs

On the 20th anniversary of Internet Explorer 5 for Mac, one of its key developers reveals how Apple’s Steve Jobs ignored agreements, and made Microsoft pull features from its browser.

Composite reconstruction of Internet Explorer 5's splash screen on a typical browser window of the time.

Composite reconstruction of Internet Explorer 5’s splash screen on a typical browser window of the time.

Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 Macintosh Edition was announced on January 5, 2000 at Macworld Expo, where Steve Jobs demonstrated it alongside OS X. Now on the 20th anniversary of that demo, developer Jimmy Grewal has been describing both how the influential app was created —and how he and his team would come to regret giving in to Jobs’s demands.

“MacIE 5 was built by a team of [around] 40 talented & dedicated people in Microsoft’s Mac Business Unit (MacBU) based in San Jose, CA.,” says Grewal in a Twitter thread. “I joined that team fresh out of university in June ’99 and helped design some of the features of MacIE 5, and also managed the Mac OS X version.”

Internet Explorer 5 for Mac featured a design highly reminiscent of the early OS X desktop, though Grewal says this was coincidence —at least on Microsoft’s part.

“This ‘new look’ had an uncanny resemblance to Apple’s later Aqua interface for Mac OS X,” continues Grewal. “However it was developed in complete secrecy within Microsoft. When we previewed MacIE 5… to Apple in the Summer of 1999, Jobs was not pleased.”

In an accompanying blog on the same topic, Grewal quotes a colleague, Maf Vosburgh, saying that their “new look” started with an idea to match hardware with software. Vosburgh says the idea was that if you had a Bondi blue iMac, then IE 5 would use that same color.

“So did Steve see our Summer 1999 New Look demo and tell his team to create Aqua?” says Vosburgh. “Who knows. Our stuff was in any case inspired by Apple’s hardware designs, so I can’t feel too bad about it.”

While Vosburgh says that Jobs was enthusiastic about Microsoft’s design, Grewal tells a slightly different story about what may have been a later demonstration.

“Since no one outside Apple was supposed to know about Aqua at the time, [Jobs] couldn’t say anything to us about the resemblance,” he says. “[And instead] he directed his ire at another new feature in MacIE 5 called Media Toolbar. This feature provided support for playing back MP3’s on websites.”

Media Toolbar was significant because it leveraged SoundJamp MP, the same software that Apple was in the process of acquiring to create iTunes.

“Jobs insisted we cut this feature claiming it undermined QuickTime,” continues Grewal. “Some time after the launch of MacIE 5, Apple acquired SoundJam and its development team. It was released by Apple under the name iTunes. We cut the feature and deeply regretted it.”

For that January 5, 2000 announcement, Internet Explorer 5 for Mac would be included in Steve Jobs’s keynote instead of getting a regular demo from a Microsoft executive.

“It was quite an unusual request. Talking points were agreed, but much to our dismay Jobs didn’t mention a single one,” says Grewal.

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Instead, Jobs “implied” that the overall look of the browser was a result of it using Apple’s standards.

“But other than the scroll bars and window controls, the rest was generated by the UI code in the app and looked identical in the Mac OS 9 version,” says Grewal. “From the horizontal pin-stripped background of the toolbars, to the 24-bit semi translucent buttons and Gaussian-blurred menu backgrounds, none of it was part of Apple’s Aqua UI elements in the Carbon toolbox… yet to the casual observer they were almost indistinguishable.”

Despite Jobs ignoring the agreed points, and despite later regrets about cutting the Media Toolbar, Grewel says that he and the team were proud of the app.

“The response to MacIE 5 at Macworld and by the press was better than we had hoped, probably helped by the fact that it looked great and very similar to some of Apple’s own apps running under the yet-to-be-released Mac OS X,” he says. “We were all proud of the work we had done, the critical acclaim, and the enthusiasm of Mac users who had traditionally frowned upon Microsoft’s past efforts to build Mac software.”

Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 for Macintosh was released on March 27, 2000. Its final version was released in 2003.

Shortly afterwards, Jimmy Grewal left Microsoft. Writing in 2005 about his experiences with Internet Explorer he said Apple “was a pain in the ass sometimes.”

“For a company with such great PR, they really were very unprofessional and treated developers poorly. I know that the OS X transition was tough, but there are so many stories I could tell of stupidity at Apple and policies which made no sense,” he wrote.

“There were times during the last two years of working at Microsoft that I really hated Apple’s management,” he continued, “which was very difficult for me being such a loyal fan of their products and having so many friends who worked there.”

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Apple Podcasts Preview redesigned with support for web playback, episode details, more

 

Apple this week pushed out a major revamp to the Apple Podcasts Preview webpage, providing users a refreshed design, the ability to play episodes directly in a web browser, granular episode details and more.

Similar to changes made to Apple’s iTunes and App Store websites, the new Podcasts Preview for the web features a clean layout that offers at-a-glance information on a given podcast and its episodes.

As seen above, a podcast’s landing page now displays that show’s logo in the top-left corner, beneath which is a counter denoting the number of available episodes and a link to begin playing the latest installment. The podcast title takes up space at the top of the page, while the show’s producer is listed below in smaller font.

Podcast category is also denoted, while a dynamically updated module displays star ratings. A dedicated iTunes button for downloading episodes in Apple’s centralized media hub is joined by a smaller icon for sharing a Podcasts Preview page to Twitter and Facebook. The page’s URL can also be quickly copied to the clipboard via the share button.

Notably, Podcasts Preview now supports web playback, meaning listeners can stream episodes directly in a web browser. Previously, the interface offloaded users to iTunes for content playback and management.

Along with a play button, each episode’s title, description, runtime and published date are available in the episodes column. Clicking on an episode’s box takes users to a “podcasts.apple.com” URL that includes a show description and options to open in iTunes, share or play in browser. When applicable, a link to a podcast’s website is also furnished.

The Podcasts Preview update comes on the heels of newly aired rumors claiming that Apple is preparing to break up iTunes in a future version of macOS. Last week, developer Steve Troughton-Smith said as-yet-undisclosed evidence points to development of standalone Music and Podcast apps for Mac, assets currently entangled in iTunes.

Apple could be planning to announce the new apps, and with it a dismantling of iTunes, at its Worldwide Developers Conference in June. AppleInsider will be providing live coverage of the event starting June 3.

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Apple responds to viral tweet over disappearing iTunes movies

 

Apple over the weekend responded to a viral tweet claiming it had removed purchased movies from a user’s iTunes account with their consent, allegations that kicked spurred a flood of commentary regarding digital media rights.

The tweet in question outlined a fairly simple-sounding scenario in which a user said three movies he had purchased in iTunes had been removed from his account, meaning he was unable to play or re-download them. Apple support acknowledged that the movies were gone and attempted to rectify the issue by providing rental credits, far off the value of the missing films.

The problem, and initial response from Apple, prompted speculation that Apple has the power to delete purchased media at will, but an investigation by CNET suggests there is more to the story.

For starters, the user in question had recently relocated from Australia to Canada, changing their active region in the iTunes Store. Some movies are not available in different regions, and if they are, they can be different versions of the film. For instance, production houses might change political or regional references, remove aspects of a film to satisfy ratings boards in more conservative countries, or change the name of a movie to something more relevant for a specific audience.

That seems to have been the issue in this particular situation.

In a statement provided to CNET, an Apple spokesperson said, “Any movies you’ve already downloaded can be enjoyed at any time and will not be deleted unless you’ve chosen to do so. If you change your country setting, some movies may not be available to re-download from the movie store if the version you purchased isn’t also available in the new country. If needed, you can change your country setting back to your prior country to re-download those movies.”

The statement suggests neither Apple nor the studio pulled these specific films. Instead, the titles likely have Canada-specific versions that are different than those offered in Australian. Anders is also seemingly unable to switch back to the Australian iTunes Store as it requires a local Paypal or billing address, which he no longer has. There are apparently workarounds here, but it seems unnecessarily difficult to pull off.

The crux of the matter is physical ownership versus digital ownership. To date, Apple has not revoked access to a film that someone has purchased (outside of these fringe scenarios). For those who want to play it safe, best practices would imply downloading and creating a physical copy of the movie. Store these on a hard drive, and should ever the day come that Apple or a studio ever remove access, you still have them available.

In this case, it appears Apple Support has now pledged a workaround to allow Anders to once more have access to his movies. He also has been a good sport about it, noting he “fell into a licensing crack, it seems.”

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Series of fraudulent iTunes charges reported in Singapore

 

Dozens of iTunes users in the Southeast Asian country report that they have lost hundreds of dollars due to charges recorded to their accounts for purchases they did not make.

Apple loves Singapore sign

According to Channel News Asia, two people say they were charged the equivalent of around $5,100 to iTunes on their bank-connected credit cards. The bank, Oversea-Chinese Banking Corporation (OCBC) reported 58 cases total of the fraudulent charges.

A customer at another bank, DBS, told the news organization that six fraudulent transactions led to his account balance being “completely wiped out.”

Apple Singatore told Channel News Asia that it is “looking into” the charges, and has nullified the purchases.

Several of the charges were in the amount of exactly $112.03 in Singapore dollars ($82.22). Another customer reported the charge showing up on his phone bill, charged to “iTunes orders.”

Apple has of late made a strong push into Singapore. It opened its first Apple Store there last year, with an “Apple Loves Singapore” insignia in front of the store as it was prepared for opening- and it also added transit directions in that country to Apple Maps.

Apple has refunded many of the charges, but not all. The company also says that it is looking into the situation.