{"id":106492,"date":"2019-12-31T21:49:40","date_gmt":"2019-12-31T21:49:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/appleinsider.com\/articles\/19\/12\/31\/jimmy-iovine-reveals-whats-wrong-with-streaming-music-talks-steve-jobs"},"modified":"2019-12-31T21:49:40","modified_gmt":"2019-12-31T21:49:40","slug":"jimmy-iovine-reveals-whats-wrong-with-streaming-music-talks-steve-jobs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sickgaming.net\/blog\/2019\/12\/31\/jimmy-iovine-reveals-whats-wrong-with-streaming-music-talks-steve-jobs\/","title":{"rendered":"Jimmy Iovine reveals what&#8217;s wrong with streaming music, talks Steve Jobs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"article-leader\">Former Apple Music executive Jimmy Iovine says streaming services are all facing the same problems about differentiation, but notes it&#8217;s a great time to be an artist.<br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<div class=\"article-img\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sickgaming.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/jimmy-iovine-reveals-whats-wrong-with-streaming-music-talks-steve-jobs.jpg\" alt=\"Jimmy Iovine launching Apple Music in 2015\" height=\"368\" class=\"lazy\" data-original=\"https:\/\/www.sickgaming.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/jimmy-iovine-reveals-whats-wrong-with-streaming-music-talks-steve-jobs-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sickgaming.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/jimmy-iovine-reveals-whats-wrong-with-streaming-music-talks-steve-jobs-1.jpg\"><\/div>\n<p><span class=\"minor2 small gray\">Jimmy Iovine launching Apple Music in 2015<\/span><\/div>\n<p>Around <a href=\"https:\/\/appleinsider.com\/articles\/18\/03\/21\/jimmy-iovine-will-step-back-move-into-consulting-role-for-apple-music-in-august-report-says\">14 months<\/a> after leaving <a href=\"https:\/\/appleinsider.com\/topic\/Apple\">Apple<\/a>, record producer and <a href=\"https:\/\/appleinsider.com\/topic\/Apple+Music\">Apple Music<\/a> co-creator <a href=\"https:\/\/appleinsider.com\/topic\/Jimmy+Iovine\">Jimmy Iovine<\/a> talked with <em>The New York Times<\/em> about the state of streaming music services. He says each faces the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2019\/12\/30\/arts\/music\/jimmy-iovine-pop-decade.html\">same difficulties<\/a> and describes what he learned from <a href=\"https:\/\/appleinsider.com\/topic\/Steve+Jobs\">Steve Jobs<\/a>, Apple and Napster.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s all a response to Napster. I saw how powerful that technology was, and I realized we had to switch gears. The record companies were not going to exist without tech,&#8221; he told <em>NYT<\/em>. &#8220;Why I got into the music business originally was to be associated with things that were cool. And I realized that the record business at that moment, the way it was responding to Napster, was not cool.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Iovine says that 20 years ago, the record industry was &#8220;putting up a moat&#8221; and suing people to protect its interests.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;So I said, &#8216;Oh, I&#8217;m at the wrong party.&#8217; And I met a bunch of people in tech. I met Steve Jobs and Eddy Cue from Apple. And I said, &#8216;Oh, this is where the party is. We need to incorporate this thinking into [my record company] Interscope.'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Iovine also wanted to work on how his music was being listened to, and says that he learned a lot from how Dr Dre was concerned with &#8220;cheap, inefficient equipment.&#8221; When he decided to form <a href=\"https:\/\/appleinsider.com\/topic\/Beats\">Beats<\/a> music, he then learned from Apple just how complex hardware is.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Steve Jobs used to sit with me at this Greek restaurant and draw out what I needed to do to make hardware,&#8221; explains Iovine. &#8220;He&#8217;d say, &#8216;Here&#8217;s distribution, here&#8217;s manufacturing,&#8217; and he&#8217;d be drawing on this paper with a Sharpie. And I&#8217;d go, &#8216;Oh, [expletive].'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Iovine says that his going from being a record producer to co-founding Beats, and then joining Apple, was not a case of jumping ship from music to technology. But also that while he sees technology and music as part of the same thing, others do not.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The two sides don&#8217;t speak the same language,&#8221; he says. &#8220;Content doesn&#8217;t know what technology is building. And engineers are just going by the way they see a problem. The streaming business has a problem on the horizon, and so does the music business. That doesn&#8217;t mean they can&#8217;t figure it out.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The problem for streaming, he says, is in the profit margins and how music services cannot really differentiate themselves.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It doesn&#8217;t scale,&#8221; says Iovine. &#8220;At <a href=\"https:\/\/appleinsider.com\/topic\/Netflix\">Netflix<\/a>, the more subscribers you have, the less your costs are. In streaming music, the costs follow you. And the streaming music services are utilities \u2014 they&#8217;re all the same. Look at what&#8217;s working in video. <a href=\"https:\/\/appleinsider.com\/topic\/Disney+\">Disney<\/a> has nothing but original stuff. Netflix has tons of original stuff. But the music streaming services are all the same, and that&#8217;s a problem.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>[youtube https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=_p8AsQhaVKI?start=5938&#038;w=560&#038;h=315]<\/p>\n<p>He also sees a problem in how record companies no longer have a direct relationship with music consumers. But equally, this can be tremendous for musicians and performers.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The artists now have something they&#8217;ve never had before, which is a massive, direct communication with their audience \u2014 from their house, their bed, their car, whatever,&#8221; he says. &#8220;And because of that, everybody wants them. Spotify wants them, Apple Music wants them, Coke wants them, Pepsi wants them.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;So hail to the artists, because in the end they&#8217;re winning,&#8221; he continues. &#8220;It isn&#8217;t their problem to figure out how the streaming company and the record company are going to make more money. It&#8217;s the streaming company and the record company&#8217;s problem to figure out how to become more valuable to that artist.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Former Apple Music executive Jimmy Iovine says streaming services are all facing the same problems about differentiation, but notes it&#8217;s a great time to be an artist. 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